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It's all in Black & White or is it 'B' & 'W'

A lot has been said about the 'W's this year for relegation, by that we mean Wigan, West Ham, WBA and ourselves.

But lately it's only Wigan who appear to be getting detached.

Yes, it would have been better to discover this 'winning formula' we seem to have found after 9 games had gone in the season, not however with 9 games left!

I always remember us being a late form team even when we had a really good side.

It is now going to go down to the wire, no more slip ups as time and games left, afford us none.

If Wigan lose another game I think they will be to far adrift, 3-5 points is not a lot mid season but now its a huge gap to get back.

That clutch of teams on 32 points are looking vulnerable, above that its Villa and Stoke, anything above those I think it would take a complete collapse for them to become involved.

Our result against Villa will determine I think, what happens to Villa, a win for them will go a long way to reach safety, for us? I would settle for a draw and our home games are the ones we 'must' win.

I don't have the stats, but on form at the moment all the 'B's are looking poor, Blackburn, Blackpool and Blues, I think two of those could well end up in trouble.

Normally you would favour us looking at our run-in, but I still worry about our form against those dreaded 'teams around us', from now until the end of the season those are the teams we must meet and defeat if we are to stay amongst the so called elite!

We are the Wolves! and yes it's going to get emotional! where have I heard that before? .UTW.

Article suggestion from member Crete Wolf

Crete Wolf Comment: 44 Points for Safety??

I've looked at the remaining fixtures and have come up with 44 points for us!

Will it be enough? Drawing away to Villa, Stoke and Blues(3pts).

Losing away to Newcastle and Sunderland

Winning home games, Everton, Fulham, WBA and Blackburn (12pts) 44 Points total.

What do you think? Give teams and total points.



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Writer: Crete Wolf Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday March 8 2011

Time: 1:00PM

Your Comments

Excellent timing Crete :) before the weekend I sat down and predicted, how silly of course, the results of all the sides from 10th down to 20th and I think you are spot on bringing attention to the 'B' teams. Remember that I worked out my stats before the weekend, and whilst some results since have already poured some cold water onto my assertions, such as Albion losing at Birmingham, I will stand by my finish positions- our predictions for Wolves are pretty similar, although I have us to finish on 42 points which I think will be enough - this comprised of home wins against Blackburn, Albion, Fulham, and yes, Spurs (so we are technically down to a 40 point finish as it stands, based on my genius methodology!) with draws against Newcastle and Everton, desfeats at Villa, Stoke, Blues and Sunderland. Now, considering I have provided license to lose four games right there, I don't consider it unreasonable to expect us to beat the sides mentioned. Our home record is looking stronger, and I would happily sacrifice those defeats however unpleasant they may prove, if we can win those home games, as you said yourself. 4 wins and 4 defeats from our remaining games would provide 12 more points as opposed to 8, say, drawing them all (I'm leaving an error margin not bringing the 9th game in the equation). Ultimately, if we can achieve 42 points I actually have us to survive with as comfortable a margin as last season, however absurd it sounds to mention 'comfortable' and Wolves in the same sentence. I say so however, because whilst it is up to us to put those points on the board, I think there are two, more likely three sides who are going to struggle to put many more points on the board. I think you are right about Wigan- looking at the games they have left it is an awful run in, and whilst the season has been full of surprises I will actually be surprised if they win more than one more game this season. I actually don't have them down to pick up anything more than a few draws. Blackpool have collapsed like a stack of cards and there are no signs of any 'turning the corner'- Holloway has already achieved the unthinkable at Blackpool and I suspect he will be managing in the top flight next season whether Blackpool are relegated or not, yet whilst his attack attack attack approach startled teams through the first half of the season, teams are now picking them off at will and a continued approach, tactically, is not admirable to me, it smacks of naivety. If your car is rolling backwards down a hill you dont lean back, turn the radio up and enjoy the ride, you sit up take notice and at the very least apply a little pressure to the brakes. Where as Mick took stock last season, saw things were not working and changed the former, ultimately saving us from the relegation that was on the cards, I am not sure in the slightest IH will change things up and even if he did does he have the players at his disposal to do so? or the strength in depth? It's sa shame but I can't see them recovering and I have them to go down with..... Albion. I don't say it out of spite, I would love to think of two derby games against Albion next season but those who are not good enough are judged over the course of 38 games and whilst they may turn around and suggest we are the ones for the drop, could still happen of course, I think old Roy was brought in just a few weeks too late. The win against Blues was a huge lift for them, and now they can point to an unbeaten run but I still think they are too cavalier and will get undone. I actually have them to go down on goal difference, just below... Blackburn. They have now won one of their last seven and you can't see things improving much there either but I think they will have done enough and the few extra points they have now and what they can get should just about scrape them through. I agree that the Villa game is huge and will have a huge impact on both of our seasons. For Villa they can put significant daylight between us and themselves, an away win could whilst not assuring a climb from the bottom three will be sure to drag them ever closer to us, who we would trail by just a point (and their goal difference is only 2 better than ours.) It's a tall order but I have faith we are showing some of the best form we have all season- we have been scoring for fun recently and let's face it, not many sides are going to score three as good as Tottenham did last week, so with standards maintained, I think we have more than enough to start by springing a win at Villa Park and taking it from there. Nice work Crete. Til then.
New York City Wolf
I think we could win all of the remaining games. We won't but surely we can win and draw enough matches to make ourselves safe. We now look more solid at the back and are beginning to score goals at the sharp end. That's an excellent formula for survival. If we did badly against earlier relegation rivals, at least we have the chance to put matters right by beating the ones currently within reach: AV, Birmingham, Blackburn, Stoke and WBA. Fifteen points from those matches and we are safe. As you suggest, Yorkie, the AV game is the big test. If we win there, we can wipe out all of the others. What odds on a final 56 points total? Pessimistic ... moi?
Southbank60
I just fell off my chair. What have you done with Banksy you fiend? Unless he is returned in the first instance we shall notify the authorities- actually they would probably give you a free kick. Hmm. They are all beatable on paper and I just hope Mick is standing before them every morning at the start of training telling them exactly the same thing. Our position proves somewhat absurd based on our performances since the turn of the year in particular, but points win prizes, or at least safety in our case and I am enjoying our collective optimism. Now, can someone remind me how much we spent when we won promotion, and the amount we brought back in by selling or otherwise unloading players, because with optimism the word of the day I have been tinkering with my season long dismay (spending most of it in the bottom three following a finish of 15th and an 18 million investment) and have taken a long angle still that brings one to ponder; resources upon our arrival + money spent - players sold + one survival (and probably we are beginning to believe, + two 'survivals') = .............. and already I must admit I am casting thoughts, a dangerous game to play, to next season, and day dreaming a wonderful future for our club again. If we are to enter a third Premiership season we are two seasons ahead of the sides that are promoted and having cast aside another five players like we did last summer, and replacing them with the likes of Jamie O'Hara- well the mind boggles does it not? I do believe that despite the amount of despair we have suffered this season, if we can survive this one, I can't really see us suffering the same levels of discomfort next season. I apologize for being too lazy to read through fifty articles to find out who said it, please step forward, but someone not so long ago was talking about continuity, and by the time next season rolls around Mick will be marking near or arounds a five year anniversary. Let's keep this optimism goin Mister Grimsdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale.
New York City Wolf
If only we can survive this season, I think we can consolidate our position in the PL next year. Of course, much depends upon the transfer window and the impact it has on other clubs as well as our own. I hope we are already looking at players who will genuinely improve our performance so that, unlike the faulty assessment of JVD, we know the weaknesses as well as strengths of potential recruits. Everytime I walk up the slope past the Billy Wright stand I see JVD's face peering down at me (and, more encouragingly, Kites's image too). This summer we have got to get it right. No more false hopes. What worries me is that we felt the same way last year. We survived relatively comfortably in the end and started off this season with such high hopes. Sadly, our aspirations of a solid mid-table position soon crumbled to dust. In the meantime, we have to avoid the drop and, as it stands, that would be no mean achievement.
Southbank60
Right you two,no more ****** footing around!!Team names,results and points totals please.Lets see who gets the closest,NYC forget your forecast from last week do another and get it down here in black and white!.UTW.
Crete Wolf
OK, here is my prediction: Aston Villa 1 point Newcastle 1 Everton 1 Stoke 3 Fulham 1 Birmingham 3 WBA 1 Sunderland 1 Blackburn 3
Southbank60
Bloody hell. Here we go- I'll start with Wolves, and considering there's only one gam e between now and next weekend, I will publish the full breakdown later this week; us- Villa 1 pt Newcastle 1 pt Everton 1 pt Stoke 0 pt Fulham 3 pts Blues 0 pts Albion 3 pts Sunderland 0 pts Blackburn 3 pts - which would leave us on 41 points. I will add that I don't expect Wigan, Blackpool, Blackburn or West Brom to reach 40 points.
New York City Wolf
6 points from the home matches: Fulham (3), Everton, WBA and Blackburn ( 1); 7 points from the away ones: Stoke(3), the other four all drawn. 13 points and no defeats for a total of 42. Only two wins - that is because the strikers are brought on only late in the game. A team finishing with 41 points will be relegated. Phew!!
lovesW
lovesW: it seems as though you are party to a PL management decision to make 41 points the official relegation cut-off score. If you have friends in such high places, could you please get Halsey's decisions on Sunday reversed?
Southbank60
Interesting?!,that means loveW thinks we will go unbeaten for the rest of the season!!,this is the best sequence of results we had all season, three unbeaten and two of those have been draws!!,we have not had back to back wins at all!,notice I called it a 'sequence' as it does'nt deserve to be called a run yet!.To put it in perspective if Wigan beat the blues(not impossible) next game and we fail to get a result,it will be us propping the table up with eight games to go!.Been looking at the fixtures and Wigans are not as bad as I thought.If you do a little mini league table of the worst fixtures B'ham,West Ham,West Brom and Blackburn are the worst.
Crete Wolf
Oh well- at least the optimism has flipped off the end of the scale. W- if we finish the season having not lost over 12 games I'll auction my Manders shirt for charity. And to underline the love for that shirt, it does get treated to the occasional trip to the pub with me during trips to England. It has its own chair; next to the radiator with a dart in it. Have Sky been throwing around the stats, as in the highest points tally still relegated? Because as I believe I mentioned above, I don't think it is going to take as many as 42. I shoot for 41 and safety. If Wigan do lose to Blues their next two are Spurs and Chelsea by which point I think they will have been cut adrift, mentally if not mathemtically. Agreed on the others though Crete; although West Ham can be added to that four but I think they are proving unpredictable, as in winning here losing there, which will be enough to keep them up. I think my approach, equating for 4 defeats is conservative yet all good and dandy if we win 4 and draw 1 from the others. It's going to be a boring weekend I know that much.
New York City Wolf
If we do not lose any of the remaining matches, I'll wear my Doritos shirt at every home game next season. And I will buy a pint of Banks's best bitter for every Vital Wolves blogger at the Blackburn game.
Southbank60
Well bring the wallet Banksy because there's a slim boon Pickins chance I might be over for the last game. If so, I'll liine uo the shots. Optimism springs and today on just 3 sips off Maxwell House. I am beginning to think it has nothing to do with the cofee at all. Without yet reading it I see one of Express and Spoon contributors is looking forward to a weekend break from 'the nerves'- as if the summer isn't bad enough! Work chaos aside I have a pretty open week so I shall scratching the days of the calender ahead of the Villa game. The open weekend does of course open up some writing time. And the weekend my friends is with us.
New York City Wolf
I see Southbank 60 would be surprised at his own predictions coming true. No defeats forecast in his list, as in mine. I expected a comment or two on the belated introduction of strikers into the game - a tactical point, rather than all this numbers guess-work.
lovesW
Well, speaking for myself, I processed a blur of tactical data in the nano-seconds it took me to consider the outcome of each match. Unfortunately, my keyboard skills are less advanced and it would take me years to write the thought process down! You could start the ... er ... ball rolling though, lovesW.
Southbank60
 

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